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Bill Shannon's avatar

A very frustrating topic and one that has been known to get my motor running. Suffice it to say that I agree 100% with your final paragraph. The comparison to a rabid dog is apt and their fates should be the same. We also need to do a better job of getting people like this off the streets before they hurt someone. We need to build more asylums, rehab tho ones that have fallen into disrepair since being emptied, and quit with the bleeding heart sympathy. If you're too addled to assist in your own defense, you've given up the right to walk freely amongst us. And if you're that mentally ill or of such low intelligence, you won't know what you're missing anyway. Law-abiding citizens shouldn't be at the mercy of a lunatic with a get out of jail free card in his back pocket. It's bad enough we're at the mercy of idiot judges and lazy, possibly woke, prosecutors who seem to be too happy to drop charges and make deals that only benefit the bad guys. The justice system needs a reset. One that punishes criminals and looks after victims. That protects society at large and doesn't perform legal gymnastics to protect the rights of thug criminals who don't give a flying eff about their victim's rights.

Natalie Sandoval's avatar

Couldn't agree more

Michael Lee Pemberton's avatar

The rabid dog analogy still applies. I served as a Correctional Officer in a Regional Detention Centre where I would gladly have served 99.99% of the inmates a healthy happy heaping helping of fentanyl for their breakfast. Out of hundreds of people that passed through there, I only met one that I believed had a shot at rehabilitation. The system wasn't set up for evaluation and rehabilitation. The culture of crime gets no sympathy from me. Generation after generation produces misfits and maladjusted offspring. If there is any hope of saving more of them, we have to identify them early, separate them from family and community influences that encourage antisocial behavior, and raise them with discipline and character.

Michael Lee Pemberton's avatar

Prison should not only be for retribution, it should promote rehabilitation. Basic education and an understanding of why they exhibit criminal behavior would better prepare them to function normally. Training in an appropriate trade or career, along with continued monitoring, counseling, and employment assistance could reduce recidivism dramatically.

The very same applies to the mentally challenged and mentally ill. Residential facilities for the mentally ill must be more active in rehabilitation and less involved in warehousing patients. Socialization and training mental patients to be capable of basic life skills, self-sufficiency, trade or career development are essential if they are to be productive members of society.

Because of diminished capacity, the mentally challenged and disabled may require housing in a safe community and employment in community based enterprises suitable to their skill set. If they can be supervised in minimum security facilities, rather than incarcerated in institutions and hospitals, it would be less expensive and potentially create a prosperous and independent community, given sufficient incentives. Having a life of purpose, accomplishment, and respect is a common goal of humans. If they can be protected from exploitation of their vulnerabilities by unscrupulous individuals and groups, all society may benefit.

Bill Shannon's avatar

It seems to me we've gone too far towards "rehabilitation" and lost the punishment bit. The expectations society puts on the individual are not confusing and it's not difficult. Don't hurt others and don't take things that don't belong to you. A child can manage this. If you can't or won't abide by these extremely simple, common sense rules, you surrender your access to society. Period.

And if your capacity is so diminished that you can't follow the rules, sorry, but for the greater good you need to be put somewhere else, where the general public is not endangered by your presence.

We've done the whole feel-good, emptying out of asylums and many people have suffered and died because absolute lunatics are walking among us. These people need to be warehoused, monitored, restricted and sure, treated. There's far too much at risk to kowtow to "feelings" and well-insulated bleeding hearts.